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RE: Economy and HTT Pricing
You might be waiting for capitulation, depending on the brand you are looking at. I am not sure if you will ever see that kind of market in the camper/trailer industry. A company like Berkshire Hathaway(owns controlling interest in Forest River) has more than enough other ways to make money while riding out the market problems. They will never sell trailers to dealers at a loss and dealers will not likely sell at a loss either, unless they go under, in which, their lender and/or manufacturer will take back or sell the inventory to another dealer...I don't think you are going to find 40+% off MSRP, I just don't think business margins in the chain will allow for it. 30-35% should be possible depending on brand/dealer, but i don't think you will see 40+%.
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mike_mn
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10/15/08 03:56pm |
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RE: Leveling our HTT...best chocks and best way to stablize?
I use a simple bicycle hand powered pump. To fully inflate them takes maybe a minute of continuous pumping on each bag, but unless the trailer is very unlevel, it doesn't take more than 20 or 30 pumps each bag to get them high enough.
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mike_mn
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10/14/08 03:35pm |
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RE: Air Bags for leveling Rockwood Roo 233
See my signature for detailed instructions to make your own.
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mike_mn
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10/14/08 02:11pm |
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RE: chock, leveling and sewer hose questions
Nice looking Bags and Chocks :B :B :B
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh246/mike_mn/Binder%20Style%20Chocks%20Build%20Instructions/8BinderChocksAndAirBags.jpg height=320
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mike_mn
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10/14/08 02:06pm |
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RE: Leveling our HTT...best chocks and best way to stablize?
See my signature for my favorites...In truth, I believe that the way you put down your stabs has more effect on movement than does the way you chock your HTT. Since the stabs on the roo are acutally rated for leveling, a half to 1 full turn after hitting a solid surface will cause nothing more than a more stable trailer. If you are on a soft surface, using a block of wood under each stab may be helpful. We have never had any problems with a moving or bouncy camper.
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mike_mn
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10/13/08 04:42pm |
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RE: Leveling blocks for tandem axle
To find the info on the levelers you are looking for, see the link in my signature to my air bag build thread...in the first post you will find a link to pics to build some leveling boards as well.
EDIT, here are the links to save you some time. Keep in mind the measurements will only work if your wheels have the same spacing as this trailer does.
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/549444131TlbGCj
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2086152330088896594gPmnFJ
FYI, these are not my levelers, I just think they are pretty cool if you are not willing to use the air bags for some reason...
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mike_mn
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10/07/08 11:26am |
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RE: Issues with Roo. Sick of dealing with dealer.
funk,
Bring it to Neimeyers in Elko. A little bit of a drive for you, but they have taken great care of me and I think they would be happy to make you happy with the possibility of getting a sale from you a few years down the road.
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mike_mn
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10/05/08 09:08pm |
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RE: Best Leveling for Tandem Axle?
Personally, I pump up one and then the other and get them visually close in height to each other, but if you are concerned about getting them equal, you can always do something like gaffer222 did.
http://inlinethumb22.webshots.com/14549/2661026120090325685S600x600Q85.jpg
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mike_mn
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08/29/08 01:58pm |
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RE: Best Leveling for Tandem Axle?
Ok, I'll ask this neophyte question. Let's say you use the airbags. How do you know how much air to put in them to level the trailer? Are there levels out there that tell you how many inches you need to raise the trailer?
I use the hand tire pump and pump it up until the trailer is level...I could care less how many inches it is. I just add enough air to get it lifted to level from my levels that are stuck on the corners of my camper.
Backing, chocking and leveling takes less than 10 minutes. Me walking back and forth around the camper is the most time consuming part of it. Back into site, verify that I am on the most level part of the site, identify the low side, place bags behind each wheel, back onto bags, chock wheels, pump up bags til trailer is level, disconnect from truck and lift or lower tounge for front to back level, drop stabs and done. It takes about 1 minute of constant pumping to fill the bags to thier limit, which I have never come close to. Most sites I frequent are fairly level, so the bags are rarely fully inflated.
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mike_mn
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08/29/08 01:33pm |
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RE: Best Leveling for Tandem Axle?
Find the link in this forum (around page 8-11) and find how to build Level-Aires. These are air bags that you can make. Each air bag (2) is placed under each wheel, then you inflate both bags at the same time. I just inflate until my wife, which is inside the camper with a flat bubble level inside the refrigerator says thats good, and your all set! I made/built these and they work great!! You can level your TT from side to side easily and exact. No more carrying wood planks or leveling blocks. These are cool!!
What happens if they were to leak air after your stabilizers are out and the slide is out as well? Could it not twist the frame? What if it happened at 3:00am ,,,,, that would stink !!!:E
Just askin ...;)
-- Tim --
What happens if one of your tires were to leak air after your stabilizers are out and the slide is out as well? Could it not twist the frame? What if it happened at 3:00am ,,,,, that would stink !!!:E
Just askin ...;)
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh246/mike_mn/LevelAir%20Style%20Leveling%20Air%20Bag%20Build%20Instructions/1AirBagOverview.jpg height=320
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mike_mn
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08/29/08 08:53am |
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RE: Suburban / Expidition MPG
I am getting ready to upgrade my Trail Blazer EXT. Was looking at the Tahoe but no room behind the 3rd row seat. So now it's between a Suburban & Expedition. The Suburban is larger then I need and the Expedition is about the same size as the TB and the seats fold down. The big question is what kind mileage do you see with them ? The wife get's around 13 mpg running around ( they rate it 15 / 20 I get 13 / 18 ) with the V6 on the TB. ( I think the engine is under sized ) They rate the Sub. @ 15 / 19 and the Exp. @ 14 / 18 but I here the Exp. dose not achieve that at all. Buy the way I tow a 04 Starcraft ANT 235SRG 3700 dry. I get 10 MPG towing with the TB on fairly level conditions, but lacks any real power. Thanks in advance for your replies.
I have an 03 Denali Yukon XL(same basic body as suburban) with a 6.0L and unsure of the rear end(I am sure it is a bad towing ratio) towing a 23SS I get at best 9mpg(without a headwind) when I am working hard to get good mileage. When I am not trying it ends up between 7.5 and 8.5mpg depending on the wind. For day to day driving I get about 13mpg and on the freeway about 15.5mpg. The new ones are probably better, but I would be shocked to see a suburban of anykind reach 19mpg even with a 100lb woman driving it alone with no cargo.
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mike_mn
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08/23/08 11:32am |
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RE: Camping nights per year
I guess I was on a different frame of reference when considering justification of the cost...not looking at it from a per/night cost, but a satisfaction level. Am I satisfied with the number of nights I have camped vs. how much I have paid for the camper? For me, yes the cost is justified. How many nights does it take you to feel like it isn't a boat anchor sitting in storage or your back yard that is depreciating everyday you have it?
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mike_mn
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08/23/08 09:02am |
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Camping nights per year
Edit, After all the responses...I need to reask the quesiton...
I guess I was on a different frame of reference when considering justification of the cost...not looking at it from a per/night cost, but a satisfaction level. Am I satisfied with the number of nights I have camped vs. how much I have paid for the camper? For me, yes the cost is justified. How many nights does it take you to feel like it isn't a boat anchor sitting in storage or your back yard that is depreciating everyday you have it?
How many camping nights per year do you think justifies the price you paid for your trailer? I realize this is something each person needs to decide, I am just wondering what others think.
For me, we are at 18 nights so far this season and have 4-6 more nights planned before winter. I feel very good about how much we are using the trailer.
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mike_mn
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08/23/08 07:49am |
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RE: roo 23 ss awning
Home Depot Outdoor carpeting - 15ftX8ft - $40 bucks or so. Not the cheap turf stuff that frays, the stuff that could be used in a basement almost looks like commercial carpet. Very thin, easy to sweep clean. Folds up nicely and fits in the outside storage compartment. A little stiff the first few times out, but after it gets wet a few times it softens up. Lay it out on the driveway at home and it drys out nicely.
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mike_mn
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08/19/08 03:16pm |
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RE: For those Who Like Cutting Holes in Their 23ss Roo's...
And one more dumb question, Leaf, the window didn't add enough weight to affect the slide out did out? I mean, the part where they tell you that it's a-ok to not have supports under your slide out (talking specifically my 23SS now) unless you are going to have the sofabed made out as a bed all the time and a couple of huge people on it or something. I don't know how close they cut the actual weight allowed without a support under a 23's SS, hence the question. Can't imagine the window weighs too much, but I have to be prepared for all the excuses my DH will give me for not doing this. Thanks!
So, is explaining that a bunch of anonymous posters on an internet forum told you it would not weigh too much be acceptable to him as a response to his excuse that it would weigh too much?
Just askin...
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mike_mn
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08/12/08 10:25am |
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RE: For those Who Like Cutting Holes in Their 23ss Roo's...
Nice looking work Leaf-Peeper. I have to admit, of all the mods that could be done, that is not one I had thought of before. Thanks for the idea!
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mike_mn
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08/11/08 07:03am |
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RE: one problem: aliens have taken over the concertone alarm?
Use the dealer. THat is what they are for. If you find poor service there, go over them, but until they prove to be bad, utilize them so you dont have to go hunting...
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mike_mn
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08/05/08 07:24am |
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RE: one problem: aliens have taken over the concertone alarm?
Return it to the dealer. They can get a replacemetn from FR for free. The initial run of those stereos had an "error" in them. It needs to be replaced to fix it.
I have had mine replaced twice, cuz the dealer had one in stock that they thought already had the fix, but it didn't.
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mike_mn
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08/04/08 07:17am |
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RE: Need suggestion on travel trailer make/model to buy
So are you guys saying that pretty much by default, TTs with the pop-out tent sleeping are designed so that it is a primary sleeping berth, with all the other floorspace then reserved for walking/dining/counters, etc.?
Yes, the pop out tent ends are strictly for sleeping.
I guess what I'm wondering is, does this exist - picture a standard TT without the pop-out sleeping. It would probably have a queen-ish size bunk somewhere, and perhaps two bunk beds somewhere else. The front face that looks at the back of the tow vehicle would be solid. But then picture a pop-out tent bunk on that face as the "bonus".
This doesn't exist in the current market place. Most trailers with a pop out end has this as a primary sleeping area.
Also, with the Acadia, you are not in the market for a hard sided travel trailer. Your tow rating is short when you consider that the vehicle is loaded down with people and gear and the Trailer is weighed down with gear.
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mike_mn
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07/28/08 01:37pm |
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RE: What is the difference
My kids called the old camper a pop-up camper.
They call the Roo a pop-out camper.
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mike_mn
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07/28/08 07:27am |
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